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Noah was a Luni?

Gen_7:1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark….

Gen 7:4  For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

So yet 7 (more) days it will start to rain for 40 days enough to start to kill life on earth…

Gen 7:6 And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth. 1-1-600
Gen 7:7 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons’ wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.
Verse 6 is seemingly speaking in the common Hebrew short hand when refering to the 1st day of the 1st month month in NOT mentioning the day of the month either one of two things are happening here, and that in correspondance to the date which will be given according to the common Biblical numbering system used through out the scripture.

There are many oppinions on what calendar is used in the story of Noah, some say it is a time reconing based entierly on Noah’s birth day, according to the language of Gen_7:6, I do not agree to that because it makes confussion of the name ‘Month’ or cHodesh, that is a renewal through’t the story of Noah. That is Monthes based on no Light of Heaven, but rather upon Noah contrary to Gen_1:14-18be side the confussion on us not knowing when Noah was born in correspondance to the anual year according to light basesed time, the dates given hereafter then would tell us nothiing about the earth it self or the seasons in with things appened rather it would only be a time line of the events of the flood in correspondance to the birth year of Noah based on a reconing of time we don’t know.

So the more probable situation is either the employment of an ancient custom of common anual birth celibration on the first day of the first month (new year day) is in reference to generalize the situation of the story or Noah, like many other miraculouse situation in scripture was born on the 1st day of the 1st Month: an New Moon new year baby, either situation is possible.
Or the situation which suggests that only the year of Noah’s life is being mentioned, we don’y know his birth day that is not the point, but the point is that this event happened according to Heavenly calendar, as all things in scripture happen in the 600th year of Noah’s life, that is my possition, because we do not see the calendar references applied to the days of the life of Noah, just to the year of his life in which it happens according to the common calendar of Scripture.

Gen 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

In the language of this account the text says: “For yet seven days…”, the Hebrew word “owd” translated “yet” indicates that which is also represented in verse 10…

Gen 7:10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

Gen 7:11  In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Gen_7:12  And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

The count must bare out an order that will arrive at the date of 2-17-600
So we are going to use our lunar based calendar and see if a lunar based biblical year can accomidate all of this calendar math?
One of the common misconceptions is that the lunar year consists of months of 29.5 days ______ exactly, this is not true in the real world, that is an average. Rather every lunar based month has 29 or 30 days only, and that ammount varies dependant on the month according to the lunation of the moon in local observance of the sun set and twilight.
So throught this calendar of Noah, we must not assume to know what any month contained, but we must keep multiple dates for every occasion a 29 day reckoning and a 30 day reckoning.

So we know the date of 40 days references the total of the 40 days and not the start, because of the later date given in 8:4, if we counted from the first day of the 40 insead this final date would be off by over a month, so it is the completion of 40 days the fountains break and the windows of heaven open having started and continued for that time.

 

Here we start the 40 day count in reverse from the dates in Chapter 7

2-17 – 40 days puts us at 1-7 or 1-8 depending on a 29 or 30th month that 1st moon and then – the orindinal 7 days brings us to 1-1 or 12-20

after 1-7-600 is 1-8 + 1 month of 30 days = 2-7
+ 10= 40 days at 2-17
8 91011121314 15 161718192021 22 232425262728 29 30 1 234567 8 91011121314 15 1617= 40 days ending in 2-17-600

Biblical logic, should as an example, use the 3 days of Christ’s death and resurection as a well laid out model for reckoning days:
1st day is counted from before the first part of evening (crucifixion),
2nd day is the sabbath from evening until the first part of evening,
3rd day is from that last part of evening previous to the morning and through out the day, till the first part of that evening.
In the same way all biblical days are reckoned, yet it is here that at the date of 1-7-600 we are starting are count after it’s evening, which then places our first counted day on 2-8-600 (interestingly this is a sabbath day, on a lunar sabbath calendar, 8th day of the month is a first half moon.), and at 2-17-600 we are counting the 17th day in the number of the 40 days per dictum.

Gen 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 2-17- 600
Gen 7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

Notice how this is pass tense, the 40 days was up, as “the rain was…”, literally the Hebrew reads ” And was the rain upon the earth…”.

Gen 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
Gen 7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

The event in 2-17-600 was that the nominal rain seems to have ceased and the waters started “prevailing” on the earth, coming in a more exceeding way, as the waters came from the fountains of the deep, and from a more major down pour of the “windows of Heaven” , literally meaning a “chimney of” or a ‘mix of” heaven, perhaps a torent like storm. In an ordinal mind a cyclone, tsunami and or hurricane would fit this.

Gen 7:18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
Gen 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
Gen 7:24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Gen 8:1 And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged;
Gen 8:2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;
Gen 8:3 And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
Gen 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

Starting our count in 2-17-600 , that is including 2-17
in the count, and having a probable 5 month period of:
+14 days = 30 day 2nd month
+ 29 day 3rd month
+ 30 day 4th month
+30 day 5th month
+ 30 day 6th month
+16th day of the 7th month
= 149
By then adding the 1 more day we may arrive at our 7-17 at 150 days in which the waters abated perhaps by the end of the day when the Ark could rest on top of the mount.
That which is often over looked is the fact that at least 1 month of the 5 must be 29 days in length, or else the dates would not calendate properly, but would rather exceed the date given. This undoubtedly shows a lunar reckoning of time.

Gen 8:5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.

10-1-600 Is the new moon of the tenth month.
Starting in 7-17
+ 13 days to finish the 7th month at 29 days
+ 30 days for the 8th month
+ 29 days for the 9th month
=72 days in 9-29 ( until 10-1-600)
+ 1 for the day of 10-1-600 =73 days

Gen 8:6 And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:

Starting in the date of 9-29, on account of the wording ” until the 10th month…” That is literally “against the 10th month…”
+1 for the day of 9-29
+ 30 days for the 10th month
+ 9 days = 40 at 11-9-600 (the 9th day is the day after the half moon Sabbath)

Gen 8:7 And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth.
Gen 8:8 Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground;
Gen 8:9 But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.

Notice that this happening at the end of 40 days, in the biblical reckoning, with day starting at the last part of evening, morning would be reckoned as the middle of the whole day period, the “24 hour” day, and solar noon as the middle of the sun lit day, but the 3/4 mark of the whole day, start of evening would thus be the full end; Therefore, this happening seems to have occurred after or at morning, a good time to open the window to release the foul.

 

Gen 8:10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;

The Hebrew which occures in the statement “yet other” is taken from one word “owd”, which was used prior in Gen 7:4 “yet seven days…” which was beside the first day starting the count of 7 days after the day which was occuring, the word is used again in Gen 8:12; as in accordance with the application of the use of this word “owd” as at other places in the Scriptures that denote time it is reconed, for example in Gen 29, when Rachel’s week is added to Jacob’s servitude after Leah’s 7 years are over.

Gen 8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.

Notice: the Hebrew text does not say “in” but the word used is generally translated “about”, “before” or “at” literally. Yet due to the statment “yet (other)” the seven days being counted happen, as did the count in Gen 7:4-10, after the evening in verses 10 and 12, thus comencing the count in the 10th and 17th days, after even tide and the next day had begun.

+ 7 days is 11-16 (day after full moon)

8:12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
+ 7 more days = 11-23 (day after the last half moon)

Notice: The word “stayed” in verse 10 is generally translated “waited” or “tarried”, and is most ofteted associated with anticipation or discomfort, the word is distinct to the “stayed” that occures in verse 12 which is generally translated “hope”.

 

Gen 8:13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.

Another 40 day count begining with 11-23 brings us to the date of 1-2-601 (new moon) 11-23
+8= 11-30
+ 30 =12-30
+ 1 = 39 days at 1-1-601
making 1-2-601 the 40th
The only reason to mention this is to recognize the similar use of 7 and 40 day counts.
Also note the Hebrew wording does not say ” first month the first day of the month” it says ” the beginning of the first month” , this could possibly be referring to the 2nd day of the month as it was the first working day after the sabbatical new moon.

Gen 8:14 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried.

1-2 + 27 = 1-29 +2-27 = 54 days

Months as in the year of the flood
1st 30
2nd 30
3rd 29
4th 30
5th 30
6th 30
7th 29
8th 30
9th 29
10th 30
11th 30 / 29
12th 30 / 29
= 357 days in Noah’s year during the year of the flood
In the event that the supposed count of 40 for 11-600 and 12-600 is errant on account of it’s unmentioned status, it would be probable to give one or both a 29 day month making the total year of days at 355.
As a average lunar year is said to contain 354 days 8 hrs and 48 min
And being an observer of lunar Sabbath, the projections are exceptable , probable and possible.

Compiled by JS Lowther,
not a mathematician, just a bible student

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